diff --git a/addons/vlan.py b/addons/vlan.py
index 111d432..fff1d07 100644
--- a/addons/vlan.py
+++ b/addons/vlan.py
@@ -188,12 +188,12 @@ class vlan(moduleBase):
     def _query_running(self, ifaceobjrunning):
         if not self.ipcmd.link_exists(ifaceobjrunning.name):
             return
-        if not self.ipcmd.get_vlandev_attrs(ifaceobjrunning.name):
+        (vlanrawdev, vlanid) = self.ipcmd.get_vlandev_attrs(ifaceobjrunning.name)
+        if not vlanid:
             return
         # If vlan name is not in the dot format, get the
         # vlan dev and vlan id
         if not '.' in ifaceobjrunning.name:
-            (vlanrawdev, vlanid) = self.ipcmd.get_vlandev_attrs(ifaceobjrunning.name)
             ifaceobjrunning.update_config_dict({(k, v) for k, v in
                                                 {'vlan-raw-device' : vlanrawdev,
                                                  'vlan-id' : vlanid}.items()
diff --git a/ifupdown/ifupdownmain.py b/ifupdown/ifupdownmain.py
index dd2ac06..70b7d2a 100644
--- a/ifupdown/ifupdownmain.py
+++ b/ifupdown/ifupdownmain.py
@@ -2049,7 +2049,9 @@ class ifupdownMain(ifupdownBase):
         for i in ifacenames:
             for ifaceobj in self.get_ifaceobjs(i):
                 if ((not running and self.is_ifaceobj_noconfig(ifaceobj)) or
-                    (running and not ifaceobj.is_config_present())):
+                    (running and not ifaceobj.is_config_present() and
+                     not self.is_iface_builtin_byname(i) and
+                     not ifaceobj.upperifaces)):
                     continue
                 ifaceobjs.append(ifaceobj)
                 if (ifupdownflags.flags.WITH_DEPENDS and